New Product: The 4S 15.6Ah Lithium Ion Battery for the BlueROV2!

Originally published at: https://bluerobotics.com/new-product-the-4s-15-6ah-lithium-ion-battery-for-the-bluerov2/

Today we’re excited to announce a new product: the 4S 15.6Ah Lithium Ion Battery for the BlueROV2.


Unlike most of our products, this is one we never planned to make! We have the original lithium ion battery (with black wrapper) that does a perfectly great job of powering the BlueROV2 through long and tough missions. Those batteries are powering thousands of ROVs around the world!

So why a new battery, you ask? If you haven’t noticed, that original battery has been out of stock for a few months. That’s due to some craziness in the world’s supply chains right now – alongside the electronic chip shortages that have crippled many factories, there is a shortage of lithium ion battery cells. This problem has been getting worse and worse for us since 2020. At first, we were still able to get small quantities of Samsung 30Q cells, but at more than double the original price. We bought up all the cells we could find at that price, but now, we’re not able to get them at all, so we’ve had to pursue other options!


The new battery (left, white) and the original battery (right, black).

The new 4S 15.6Ah Lithium Ion Battery (with a white wrapper) is nearly identical to our original battery, but it uses a different cell: the Molicell P26A. This is one of the few high-discharge cells we’re still able to get at the moment. The resulting battery pack has the same discharge rating as the original battery, but a slightly lower capacity of 15.6Ah versus 18Ah (13% less capacity). The pack is UN38.3 certified for shipment and CE marked.

We tested this battery extensively in the lab and the field and we can confidently say that it’s a great fit for the BlueROV2. It can be used in exactly the same manner, including the same charger and charge settings. The only thing to keep in mind is that you should never connect batteries of different capacities in parallel, therefore never connect these batteries with the original black batteries in a parallel circuit!

Like our original battery, this battery is subject to international shipping restrictions and can only be shipped directly to certain countries. Many of our distributors around the world will have stock available in the future. Please see the product page for more details on shipping and availability in your country.

That’s all for today! Stay tuned for more updates in the future.

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Excellent job! It’s very beneficial to have an alternative battery to keep the BR community active.

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Hi Rusty ,
Hope you are doing well.
This message is just to get a clarity in paralleling batteries, I have seen your post about the new battery product and you have said that never connect batteries of different capacities in parallel, therefore never connect these batteries with the original black batteries in a parallel circuit! in your post. My question is ,whether paralleling is restricted just because of the battery chemistry difference ?

One more question is if i have an 18AH and 36AH batteries of same chemistry and same voltage (eg. Li ion ) , can I connect in parallel to get an endurance of 54AH ?

-Thanks

This page gives some insight into the important factors to consider when using batteries in parallel. The upshot is basically that even batteries of the same chemistry and brand can have different voltages if they’re different ages/have been used different amounts. If you measure their voltages and they’re exactly the same then it might be ok, but that also can’t be guaranteed over time because some batteries will lose capacity faster than others, even within the same pack.

This is part of why most Li-Ion battery packs come with a built in battery management system (BMS), to help ensure that the different battery cells are kept balanced and maximise battery performance and longevity. You might be interested in something like @seaview’s Multi-Battery Manager, although looking at their website it’s recently been discontinued in favour of their new/upcoming Power System Manager, which @gcelec might be able to provide some more information about :slight_smile:

Yes, we are about to release the Power System Manager (PSM). It has a higher voltage range than the Multi Battery Manager, switching capability and low voltage protection. Each battery requires a Power System Manager and you can parallel as many batteries as you like.
Basically, the power source with the highest voltage will be used until all power sources are balanced where they are drawn on equally.
You can also combine the PSM with an external power source to create a hybrid power system where the external power is used most of the time, while the battery cuts in during heavy current draw.

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Every search for PSM leads me back here or to something you posted.

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How come the battery level on the H6 Pro charger does not match the reading on QGroundControl? If I charge a battery to 100%, attach to my ROV, QGC reads 100% but after some use the two do not match. And I did set the parameters in QGC to 15,600 mAH.

Hi @bajaMike,

The issue here is that the vehicle firmware is working off limited/flawed information:

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There should not be a great difference between QGC battery level indicator and the H6 Pro charger. I started with fully charged battery, restarted the QGC program, ran some lights and camera for a few hours as I watched the battery level. It was at 80% level when I disconnected the battery and put it on the charger that read 58%. Very big discrepancy. Not sure I trust the QGC software for accurate readings.

QGC is only displaying values provided by the autopilot, so it’s not really a QGC issue.

Beyond that, I already specified the main reason I’m aware of that they’re likely to provide different values, which is major enough that we recommend just using voltages instead.

Given we basically never use the energy percentage estimates it’s quite possible there are additional issues with the percentage calculation. It’s also possible the battery charger has a voltage buffer built in for safety and prolonged health of the battery, while the energy capacity being used by ArduPilot could be equivalent to drawing the battery down until it is fully depleted (potentially at risk of damaging the battery, or at least reducing its lifespan).

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I understand a bit more…thanks! Since this is a critical issue to not damage the expensive batteries, perhaps a better status indicator in QCG that provides a RED ALERT when voltage gets too low?

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